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| Hee-sun cries at the sight of Moo-chuls body in the morgue, while Jin-sung stays to comfort her. The camera clearly focused on him, when he was on the ground, stabbed, after the flashabck he had his eyes were wide open for like seconds. I missed the Soo whod scold Young in front of a mall crowd for not accepting help, or the one whod return a punch thrown at him. "I must not be crazy, it is not all in my head" I thought. Please enter your username or email address. (Shes implying that people need people, and that they need each other.). *cries*. Hes leaving, but not before he kisses her on the forehead, eyelid, and cheek. If not, its a bad thing. fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); I don't know. Therefore, I think that one stab wasn't enough to kill Soo. Because, it was so sweet but then it was so BLURRY! // Load the SDK asynchronously :). Furthermore, they focused on the flowers, which looked like the lamb's ear and freesias they were talking about. He acted very well there, too. Bad. As things progress from bad to worse each succumbs to their own belief with wild and unpredictable results. I guess its up to intrepretation but it may be that those two are actually alive and everything went well OR they both diedSoo died first bc he got stabbed which is why he is at the restaurant "6 months before" waiting for her. So let me get this straight. No, it wasnt ever hard, Blurry Figure responds. But she didn't, her vision is only recovering, thus the blurry images. It was so slow and we were made to think that OS died, because JS didn't seem to do anything to help him and yet, he didn't gut him a 2nd time, which seems like he wanted him to live. Which means Soo can play against him and take all he has left. Except thenwhat was all that deal with Jin-sun about? Once Abby makes it out of the hospital doors, there is no relief, still no one around to communicate with, only a blaring siren, cutting through the dead air. (There were some recaps that got things factually wrong and so of course they didn't make sense.). HeadsNo2, I wish I could meet you in person during the Dramabeans Meetup and personally say how you're one heck of a great writer and thinker but I'll have to be content with this. She re-thought all her previous decisions from the night before and decided to watch the video Soo so wanted her to see, which told her nothing she didnt already realize internally. Outside the room, Sun-hee tells Soo that Moo-chul died after being sick for far too long. His fellow Native Alaskan worker, Dawn goes insane shortly thereafter and murders Motor, the station mechanic, who had been injured when the plane crashed into the building. window.fbAsyncInit = function() { I just erase it. Wang's crimes. It was really rushed and that's why I think the logic breaks down. After shes gone, Soo lets this news sink in. "Going to a movie theater is less about the size of the Now that we've had successful film adaptations of LOTR Press J to jump to the feed. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. If either Jin Sung, Soo, or Young died, TWTWB would've just left a bitter taste in my mouth and a whole summer of heartache. We can theorize that he had to heal and hide for a bit from Boss Man, and that he was fine as long as he could keep a distant eye on Young. Then the shape of a man starts to form. Kudos to you. He acted well but he still not converting me as one of his fans. Thank you, Heads. It didn't disgust me though. )that none of them are truly connected to whats actually happening. Note: This clip is from a version of the film dubbed in French. The goal of /r/Movies is to provide an inclusive place for discussions and news about films with major releases. Joel and Sarah get separated from Tommy shortly after they recover. Larry Fessendens 2006 The Last Winter brings us environmental catastrophe, a hauntingly real world-ending thriller. But they crammed it into like a freaking two-minutes-reactionif that. Aka, back off. Im glad he grew as a person, but since when did Growth = Passivity? Her joy now was in helping others with similar disabilities and experiencing her love for Soo in her mind. I salute the writer as well as Ju in sung and Oh young very well-acted characters. Soo does all the talking during dinner and even after, until Young cuts him off by telling him to leave once Lawyer Jang comes back. It's the memory of those far superior movies that make this one watchable at first. Like you say, she made Young blind! I will join you guys in saying that I am also quite impressed with Heads' writing and her sense of humor. Though IMY is a drama I'd only recommend with warnings attached (it's definitely not for everyone) there was no story-logic fail. Which is why I'm so happy Soo lived. But, bite the cat that corners you, don't run and bite your mouse friend D': Maybe, he pulled a Moo Chul and was helping him in a way? They talked about making Jin-sung betray his friend, but the way they chose to do it didn't make any sense whatsoever. This doesn't change the fact though that this show was sooooo purttty. Are they still alive? The suicide, totally understandable for a person as emotionally damaged as she was who thinks she's been abandoned and betrayed by everything AND thinks she's going to die painfully anyway. Since I took a road trip there (nowhere near the North Slope, obviously) I try to watch as many movies as possible that are set in Alaska, especially if they are horror. It's loaded with so much promise - a cast of engaging characters; a bleak, isolated setting; slow-burn direction that builds a creepy atmosphere. I don't count it as a story fail because it's well supported (Wang was always shown to love and support Young) but it's so weird! I didn't understand the scene where JS knifed OS. Now he knows, and knowing is half the battle. I agree with you on the ending.The blurriness of the scene was to depict Young's perspective.After surgery her vision is most likely not going to be perfect thus there is a blurriness in her vision.Furthermore, Song Hye Kyo and Jo In Sung stated in their interviews that it was indeed a happy ending.They actually knew from the start that it would be happy ending since Writer Noh that it would be one.So hopefully everyone is no longer confused about the ending being sad or an open one. Beside all the beautiful faces and cinematography, noise marketing, media play, exaggerated praise help the popularity of this drama also. Young goes to a cafe to wait, and we see Soos tree painting hanging on the wall, completed. Youngs self-realizations werent dependent on her as an individual, and her decision to live didnt come from a place of autonomous empowerment or anything befitting the idea of character growth, because her change in tempo was dependent on Soos reactions. The New Amsterdam series finale followed Dr. Max Goodwins final day at the NYC hospital but many Photo: HBO. You got your money, whats wrong with you? About the wang discussion, i think wang told her that soo died 20 days ago, after her chimio was over, because she didnt want to give up on her chimio because of the sad news (im assuming wang found out oh soo died 6 months ago). my friend too had a cancer and took chemo therapy but didn't loose his hair. I really wanted to completely love this show and I did especially the the first third of the drama but the show just started going downhill for me in the last three episodes. Unfortunately, the teen's first kiss also leads to one of her visions, which !good point haha. After watching the last ep, even though we got the happy ending, I felt that it was a frustrating journey. What did NOT make sense was Jin-sung's betrayal. I loved how Kim Bum's character broke out of his loyalty and had that crazed, red rimmed look after he stabbed Oh Soobut then..wha.? Her secretly hoping that Oh Soo would burst in and save her makes sense (the only thing that made sense in this episode). The collapse of the environment has brought about the end, making this final framing and camera perspective cleverly placed. She doesnt want blindness to haunt Young any longer and cries that shes sorry, which Im guessing is finally an apology for causing her blindness in the first place. But I'm just so thankful. True to most of the reviews the ending ruined the movie for me, but I admit it was pretty good up until then. Is this another instance of Drama Syndrome, where characters would rather undergo pain and irreparable harm than do something logical?) And if we could all remember the statement of the too "Its not over between us""if we meet again" bla, bla .Oh young said. sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna. I waited until you would talk to me., I couldnt bring myself to do it, Soo says with a sheepish smile. The scenario with the child and sec wang of course was only a part of the scne that it should be clear. Fessenden brought in co-writer Robert Leaver to collaborate with, and the two went back and forth on various ideas. When I heard her speech in this ep about how she wanted Soo to come and save her I was really disgusted. Either way, I did really love this drama. do they look unreal? Instead we only saw the aftermath in order to preserve the cheap surprise of finding out that Jin-sungs hand was the one holding the knife, but was anyone truly surprised? I love you.. And is of a piece with the whole, what about Boss Kim? I think Jo In Sung really out did himself here and would watch it again. Young says that shes known his whereabouts for twenty days, since Secretary Wang waited to tell her until she finished her chemotherapy. Note to self don't do this on my kindle again it auto correct is a bitch. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I'm glad that this was my first. However, I really think her brain cancer would be treated with gamma knife radiation - had a friend's mother die from a brain tumor and they didn't treat with chemo but radiation. At least Moo-chuls minion seems to have Jin-sungs back. Such is the basis for Last Winter. That or she'd better return on jtbc. If it'd been left with Soo on a bicycle, then I'd have leaned towards him being dead. It was a pleasure reading them. i don't think dreaming would be like that. Sex isn't a shameful thing. HBO's The Last of Us episode 1 is a tense series premiere, and the ending warrants a bit of explanation. (Dude, where were you when your boss was driving on pain killers?). Moo Chul? As for Secretary Wang, I wished she had stayed gone. What is Abby looking at? Is he dead, for real this time? Why? We all know that oil is a non-renewable resource. Jin-sung seems to think so as he stops running and starts crying, with Moo-chuls minion nearby to share in the grief. Young has a surprisingly full head of long hair a year after brain surgery, and everyone seems to be having a good time. All content Brattle Film Foundation and the respective contributors unless otherwise noted. Episode 7 ended with a big moment for the show, the kiss between Wednesday and "normie" barista Tyler. Hoffman convinces Ed to travel with the team to a hospital for examination after Elliot's death; however, the bush plane arriving to pick them up crashes into their building, badly damaging it. As for the actual epilogue to all this coordinated madness, I found the actual stabbing inconsequential and the final scenes bizarre. So for a hot second there, I thought that the ending sequence was a dream, in part because of the blurriness of it all and the inherent implausibility of well, everything. It really was. Congrats, Liera! Native Alaskan worker Lee vanishes without a trace the next morning; the sound of hooves, the same sound which occurred prior to each appearance of the ghostly caribou, is heard. This was my reaction seven minutes before the ending: WHAT!? Good play. js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; The atmosphere of coldness, emptiness, isolation and the resulting paranoia are captured Then, in the final seconds, the camera places Abby within her surroundings. The body was like a hundred yards away. I will not claim expertise on this but I will say that I lost a family member to suicide. Granted, some things started to not make sense towards the end, but NOTHING about this show makes me think the director or writer became lazy and gave up along the way. I agree with Hannah -- the flowers were a continual peace offering and the weirdly beautiful blurriness was Young's pov. [5] The setting was partially inspired by Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage, a non-fiction book about wilderness survival in the Antarctic. or }); One particular part of the ending that was outlined for him by Team Jordan was the fate of Rand alThor, the Dragon Reborn. So, you never know right! Love it! However, weird events happen trapping the group in the base. Almost the ending: Yay! I just enjoy the cinematography. Soo drags his feet, futilely trying to make it to the hospital as blood streams from his wound and tears stream from his face. Since Will was born they have shared the same bed and often the same dreams. 6. Boss Man is hosting the game, and announces the grand prize seven million dollars. One thing the show did really, really right I thought was its depiction of blindness. It is the reason why she is such an He might cook too, but I didn't strike me as anything fancy. Some of my questions might seem superficial, however I wish things had been made clear for us :-(. If i have to nominate 2 things i dislike about this drama was jin sung stabbing oh soo (really bad move) and oh young not knowing or not even suspecting that oh soo might not be his real brother. The Last Of Us Episode 1: Ending Explained Why Is Ellie Important To The Fireflies? I made the mistake to watch Frozen flower since everybody was talking about it. argh~). I think they were talking about actually bringing flowers for his restaurant. FB.init({ Wow, now that "winter" has past, I can finally breathe. I didn't watch this show but I read every recaps on it. Still, as good as the first episode of The Last of Us might be, the stakes skyrocket when the series explores Ellie ( Bella Ramsey) and her apparent immunity to the cordyceps. Too many very explicit sex scenes without enough justification. But the scenes with Lawyer Jang and all of them wasn't from her perspective. To me it appeared a cop out or a compromise how ever you want to go. Since everyone went all in, he won the game, and all of Boss Mans money. Many viewers will say that a happy ending does not excuse a drama from obvious plot holes, but I'll give TWTWB a pass. When she was with Secretary Wang, Lawyer Jang, and her ex-fiance with those blind kids, those scenes were not blurry. Independent environmentalists work together in a drilling base headed by the tough Ed Pollack in a sort of agreement with the government, approving procedures and sending reports of the operation. I loved that. The Wheel of Time was not Brandon Sandersons creation, so even though he wrote the last 7. Really? Eco horror film about the advance team from an oil company finding that the Alaskan wilderness is turning against it. And this is what happening to me now. Secretary Wang and Young have a heart to heart as Wang tells her that even after the surgery, Young wont be able to live alone not because shes handicapped, but because no one can do anything alone. This was just bad. Over all, I do think rather than a "happy ending" it was more like a "believe what you want" ending. Later that night, Soo affixes the bell string to her wrist again. I absolutely love your comments and totally agree word for word with your analysis. After a brutal duel, the Wolf realizes he only wants to fight someone There were a lot of "wth" moments in the last few episodes that were left unresolved. Just read and look where Song was interviewed, she also concluded TWTWB was a happy ending story. If you get it, please explain it to me You know, I don't know if I can do a good job explaining it. It was like a bad fairy tale that had a happy ending tacked on to please the audience. It's lovely and I don't think you can blow it off as just pretension. That night, Maxwell, still partly delirious, strips naked and ventures out with a video camera, intending to document the paranormal phenomena. Fessendens sound techniques in this final scene of the movie, from the empty hospital, to the desolate outdoors, make this final scene more powerful. NHK stay true to the japanese drama, so the stabbing scene is actually in the jdrma version too, so I don't think they just copied nice guy, maybe it's the other way around. I need you next to me. I just watched it tonight 13 years after the above question was posted. To be honest, I felt Nice Guy/Innocent Man was more engaging than That Winter, the Wind Blows. So I read Heads' recap and some of the responses to see if I could understand a few more things before I started writing. I love happy ending! [4], When casting the film, Fessenden looked to recruit Perlman because of his gruff performance as the title character in Hellboy. But hes not there to hear about her family life, and instead asks her to return to Youngs side. Connect with Facebook Thank you to the commenters, too. (and really, if it's a happy ending, is it so hard to just give us a straight forward ending but why also a stabby scene? If the story is fast forward, then it is possible that the end will be like that. Seeing Abby surrounded by puddling water is enough. In the meantime, Young gets wheeled in for surgery. Through this drama my love for SHK is firm now and not much to JIS. Sans a passing mention of the attempt in a confusing conversation where she simultaneously told Soo that she couldnt forgive him yet she still loved him and wanted to be with him, I failed to see the step between I want to die and I want to try living because now Im extra sure you love me. His love couldnt cure her desire to die just one night earlier, but then by the morning after, his love cures all? The chief catalyst here is allegedly the spirit of the Wendigo; Dawn, while treating one of Elliot's nose bleeds, refers to a similar spirit from Algonquin mythology known as the Chenoo. I've caught myself saying, "WHAT??? I hope you like me when you see me after the surgery, he jokes lightly. It's not completely original, mind you. Why is everything so blurry? And the "softy" villain wasn't so much a softy as an audience fave. Super evaluation! In the talk show, the guest is an epidemiologist who talks about the history of humanity, which has encountered all kinds of viruses and pandemics. I don't need my heroines to be people I'd like in real life to consider them interesting and watchable, but the second half of this devolved in a very, very similar way to Nice Guy - the nonsensical last-minute stabbing of the hero (well, at least Soo, unlike Maru, does not hang out having conversations on a park bench with his girl AFTER being stabbed), the time skip and the reunion of the couple after a long time. I dont understand why this conversation cant happen now. If that had been me, I'd have taken the knife and gone after Kim. Yeah, my first but not fake. Even if you didnt take the money, it wont bring everything back to the way it was.. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the show but I just feel disappointed because it could have been a great drama. But he interacts with too many people and objects to be a ghost or a memory. but the 'open' ending is so well done, that whenever, however I feel, I could say, ok, Soo is dead or ok, this is a happy ending. But its time to let bygones be bygones and say farewell to Winter. This is exactly what I said. Read our extensive list of rules for more information on other types of posts like fan-art and self-promotion, or message the moderators if you have any questions. I wished they would have saved time there, and showed us what happened after OS was stabbed, instead of letting us speculate on what happened. By Shane O'Neill / April 9, 2021 8:39 am EST. She discovers a male employee who has committed suicide by hanging himself in one of the rooms. while watching this episode, as in "I really want to understand, but honestly, I don't. [6], The Last Winter premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival. (And not a moment too soon!). Young not only forgives her, but understands that Wang loved her all this time and just couldnt express it properly. I also like how she explains things, we get to see her thought process and I am grateful for that. Maxwell gets into an angry confrontation with environmental scientist James Hoffman, admitting that he didn't want to work on the oil site but his father, a friend of Pollack, thought it would be good for him; Maxwell states that he "saw something" out in the snow and demands that Hoffman, who has repeatedly been raising the alarm about drilling in the area due to the extremely warm (for Alaska) temperature, tell the public. JIS, who I will forgive for just about anything! That ending just confused me. Nothing tells you, you want to live more than nearly dying. I had watched NG but do not remember how the drama ended but I will remember every details about TWTWB. It's a really nice juxtaposition, imo. Warning: This story contains spoilers from season 5 of New Amsterdam. Were Boss Man's minions watching to make sure OS had been killed? :D. I'll add, I also agree that this wasn't the writer pulling out a happy ending to please fans or because she couldn't think of anything else. 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